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Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Create Alliance 642	Posted - 2015.08.11 18:37:10 - [1] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5500953#post5500953 Doing this with strangers would put his name at risk (it wouldn't stop other people scamming) for little benefit. Also imagine all the effort of having to read all the mails from subcontracting third parties, nobody wants that hassle. WTS ME 10 TE 20 BPOs & BPO Packs WTS Collectible Large Rigged Small/Medium Ships
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Create Alliance 643	Posted - 2015.08.11 23:32:25 - [2] - Quote The biggest problem is that people looking to buy/sell Supercaps already trust others with no or terrible reputation due to their own naivete and you want to give people the ability to claim that another trusted third party is securing their third partying. Scammers will exploit this and offer their services to desperate, lazy or slightly less naive people for transactions above their deposited collateral. If you were a trusted third party, would you want to be associated with such a sitation and have to pick up the pieces when someone runs away with 20b more ISK than you have of theirs? Darknesss was talking about something like this, but I assumed he would only be using people he personally trusted as he said he would replace anything lost through his associates. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=405798 There's no short cut solution that's as good as the real thing, but nobody sensible is going to trust newcomers without a lot of history due to the massive number of scams that populate the Sell Orders forum. How many people, that you don't personally know, are there that would would trust with to third party a Titan sale for you? There's 10 offering various third party services in the first five pages at the moment. Imagine how it'd be if they could deposit 20b with Chribba and say 'Guaranteed by Chribba for trades up to 20b'. WTS ME 10 TE 20 BPOs & BPO Packs WTS Collectible Large Rigged Small/Medium Ships
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Create Alliance 643	Posted - 2015.08.12 00:12:48 - [3] - Quote A character called Legit 3rd Party signs up for this chain of trust, deposits 100b with a participating trusted third party, then edits their thread to display that they are now insured by Trusted Third PartyX who confirm this in the thread, this provides reassurance to people looking to use Legit 3rd Party's service. Legit 3rd Party then waits for two people looking to buy Titans to contact them and attempts to have both of them send the ISK at the same time while skipping the steps to required to prevent a scam by the third party because as a third party insured by Trusted Third PartyX their time is valuable and everything will work out fine since they are insured anyway. If both go through now Trusted Third PartyX has to deal with the fallout. Any dissent can be reported and once deleted dismissed as trolls, because this service is insured so a scam isn't possible. Sure there would be a vetting process, character investigations and other extra work for Trusted Third PartyX, but the above is still a possibility, one that'd hurt your reputation and possibly wallet. WTS ME 10 TE 20 BPOs & BPO Packs WTS Collectible Large Rigged Small/Medium Ships
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Create Alliance 644	Posted - 2015.08.12 00:27:03 - [4] - Quote So Trusted Third PartyX then returns the 100b to the Legit 3rd Party because they no longer want their now-tarnished name associated with them, or do they keep the ISK and say tough luck to all scammed parties? You can add all the clauses you want, but a few of those happening and people won't want to use even Trusted Third PartyX. Third party's entire business revolves around there being no such trust issues and just one can ruin you. Have you ever heard of F90OEX? (http://evewho.com/pilot/F90OEX) Find out why nobody uses him as a third party today. WTS ME 10 TE 20 BPOs & BPO Packs WTS Collectible Large Rigged Small/Medium Ships
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research Create Alliance 644	Posted - 2015.08.12 00:31:33 - [5] - Quote I am a glass empty kind of person . WTS ME 10 TE 20 BPOs & BPO Packs WTS Collectible Large Rigged Small/Medium Ships

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